Tim Tyson Keynote at BLC-Chatcast

Tim Tyson's Keynote at BLC 2007

[5:56:33 AM] Dean Shareski says: this will give david something to do...edit this chatcast.......why don't you develop a tool/script to do that?
[5:57:48 AM] Barbara says: How do we keep policy from being the ceiling?
[5:58:04 AM] Will Richardson says: Alan speaking...says NCLB is increasing the gap because private schools are allowing kids to be more creative since they don't have to teach to the test
[5:58:15 AM] David Jakes says: Great idea Dean
[5:58:17 AM] Carolyn Foote says: charter schools also
[5:59:12 AM] Brian Mull says: There still is a lot of teaching to the test in private schools though...but better
[5:59:16 AM] Barbara says: Even with more flexibility we still have to show data
[5:59:18 AM] Carolyn Foote says: ironic, a person in our district leadership saw me yesterday. said these tools are all great, but we have ayp to worry about also. He's enthused...but....
[6:00:09 AM] David Jakes says: AYP has fundamentally changed how we approach education in our district
[6:00:28 AM] David Jakes says: Tim Tyson is now on-let the chat begin
[6:00:53 AM] David Jakes says: Do kids have the capacity to make a significan contribution to our world?
[6:01:11 AM] Will Richardson says: guesses...90% will say they do...
[6:01:10 AM] David Jakes says: He is now doing a poll with the audience.
[6:01:22 AM] Will Richardson says: 76%
[6:01:28 AM] * David Jakes added dkuropatwa to this chat
[6:01:32 AM] David Jakes says: Welcome Darren
[6:01:51 AM] Will Richardson says: How many kids did something that contributed to the world?
[6:01:58 AM] Will Richardson says: I'm wondering if he means in school.
[6:02:04 AM] Will Richardson says: If he does, not my kids
[6:02:42 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: I think mine did. She organized the whole school to send birthday letters to a young boy w. cancer.
[6:02:53 AM] Barbara says: what does in school mean is that corporate vs individual
[6:02:56 AM] David Jakes says: The Gift of Meaninfgul and Significant Global Contribution is the title
[6:03:13 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: reread Will. Year, MY kids didn't my students did. That stings.
[6:03:46 AM] David Jakes says: Now talking about the Phantom Tollbooth
[6:05:10 AM] Carolyn Foote says: One of my favorite books
[6:06:26 AM] David Jakes says: Wants us to reconnect with our childhood inspiration-he wants to shake some dust off our current perspectives
[6:07:04 AM] David Jakes says: Showing a picture of the Tyson family and talking about his grandparents
[6:07:25 AM] David Jakes says: great grandparents
[6:07:41 AM] * Darren Kuropatwa added graham_wegner to this chat
[6:08:17 AM] David Jakes says: Hello Graham
[6:08:25 AM] * Darren Kuropatwa added edventures to this chat
[6:08:27 AM] Graham Wegner says: Hi David
[6:08:31 AM] Will Richardson says: Hey Graham
[6:08:37 AM] Graham Wegner says: G'day
[6:08:56 AM] Graham Wegner says: And I was about to head to bed!!
[6:08:57 AM] Carolyn Foote says: Hi graham and John
[6:09:38 AM] Graham Wegner says: So is Dean speaking?
[6:09:47 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: Tim Tyson.
[6:09:52 AM] Barbara says: Using Google earth to highlight changes in the town paper mill over time
[6:09:55 AM] Graham Wegner says: Ah!!!
[6:10:23 AM] * Brian Mull added teach42 to this chat
[6:10:54 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: He's talking about changes in his home town. Terrible poverty and unemployment.
[6:11:06 AM] Carolyn Foote says: Hi Steve
[6:11:23 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: He figures this out before visiting by counting cars at the paper mill using google earth.
[6:11:22 AM] Carolyn Foote says: Barbara, how is he showing that on Google earth?
[6:11:32 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: Zoomed in on the parking lot.
[6:11:35 AM] Carolyn Foote says: ok.
[6:11:39 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: Midday.
[6:12:06 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: Tim: Read A Whole Newq Mind by Dan Pink.
[6:12:13 AM] Graham Wegner says: Google Earth pics in Oz are a few yrs old - a teacher worked that out by noticing a pergola missing from the back of their house.
[6:12:45 AM] Steve Dembo says: Greetings! Thanks for adding me in
[6:12:50 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: What's a "pergola"?
[6:13:12 AM] Carolyn Foote says: lol, darren.
[6:13:17 AM] Carolyn Foote says: It's like a gazebo but not.
[6:13:23 AM] Barbara says: Discussing Daniel Pink's Book
[6:13:25 AM] Graham Wegner says: like a verandah but not fully covered
[6:13:33 AM] Will Richardson says: jakes just dropped out and I can't see him on my list...can someone add him?
[6:13:35 AM] Brian Mull says: No prob Steve
[6:13:47 AM] Carolyn Foote says: my family has an inside joke about that, sorry
[6:13:48 AM] Carolyn Foote says: pergola
[6:14:03 AM] Brian Mull says: I have him in mine, Will
[6:09:07 AM] David Jakes says: Showing Prichard Alabama in Google Earth where the Tyson family lived
[6:10:41 AM] David Jakes says: I keep getting dropped
[6:12:40 AM] * David Jakes left this chat
[6:14:07 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: I see David on my list. He's in the chat.
[6:14:22 AM] Carolyn Foote says: he's not on my invite list either
[6:14:26 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: What about Dean? He looks offline in my list.
[6:14:39 AM] Carolyn Foote says: Daniel's book is excellent.
[6:12:25 AM] Dean Shareski says: Quoting Dan Pink
[6:13:09 AM] Dean Shareski says: Competition vs. Collaboration....what's the balance? Are these "competing" ideas?
[6:14:47 AM] Graham Wegner says: tnx everyone - got to hit the hay
[6:14:53 AM] Will Richardson says: The connection here is really slow
[6:14:57 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: Nite Graham.
[6:15:06 AM] Graham Wegner says: cheers
[6:15:06 AM] Will Richardson says: Now talking about Dewey...a hero to him.
[6:15:18 AM] * Barbara added David Jakes to this chat
[6:15:18 AM] Will Richardson says: active process of learning...
[6:15:22 AM] Will Richardson says: I got a quote for you...
[6:15:26 AM] Will Richardson says: "We have been seduced by our inability to imagine ourselves as superfluous to student learning."
[6:15:37 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: Learning is active proceess on part of learner. it;'s social and mediated by construction of artifacts
[6:15:37 AM] Will Richardson says: That's from a NZ blogger
[6:15:50 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: Sounds like Project based learning to me.
[6:16:03 AM] Barbara says: Who is doing all of the Thinking work in your classes...teachers or students
[6:16:03 AM] Carolyn Foote says: great quote will. librarians would struggle with that.
[6:16:06 AM] Will Richardson says: He's heavy into project based learning.
[6:16:08 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: Who is doing all of the thinking woirk?
[6:16:27 AM] Will Richardson says: Saying EVERYTHING has been transformed.
[6:16:39 AM] Will Richardson says: by technology.
[6:16:45 AM] Will Richardson says: Except school.
[6:16:49 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: My dept. feels that the project work our kids do is the best sort of learning that they doi.
[6:17:06 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: School is iorrelevent to their p[resent and future.
[6:17:11 AM] Will Richardson says: Jakes doing a reboot
[6:17:34 AM] Will Richardson says: Believes this is an opportunity...
[6:17:50 AM] Will Richardson says: I'm not sure I agree that students think school is irrelevant to their futures.
[6:17:50 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: School 2.0
[6:17:55 AM] Steve Dembo says: School is irrelevant to their present and future?
[6:18:00 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: authentically engaged learners
[6:18:14 AM] Steve Dembo says: Can anyone elaborate on what he meant by that?
[6:18:32 AM] Carolyn Foote says: I think students struggle "against" school's requirements but basically accept the premise of it.
[6:18:34 AM] Barbara says: which comment
[6:18:37 AM] Will Richardson says: That our kids are checking out.
[6:18:38 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: I think kids think of school as a hoop they have to jump through to get to the next hoop.
[6:18:41 AM] Will Richardson says: I agree Carolyn.
[6:19:04 AM] Barbara says: I agree Darren
[6:19:17 AM] Will Richardson says: I think they see it as relevant...but in reality, it's relevance is in question.
[6:19:30 AM] Will Richardson says: His School 2.0 list misses the networking aspect, I think.
[6:19:38 AM] Carolyn Foote says: Well, I'm not sure they are totally checking out...but they check out on some courses, not on others. I do think some do think it is relevant, yes, Will..I agree.
[6:19:42 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: Connectedness, meaningfullness, significance, contribution
[6:19:47 AM] Carolyn Foote says: We dont even network within the school
[6:19:57 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: Says "contribution" has kids working at the highest level of Bloom's
[6:20:01 AM] Carolyn Foote says: We don't talk to each other WITHIN the walls
[6:20:03 AM] Carolyn Foote says: much less outside of them.
[6:20:19 AM] Barbara says: Connectdness, meaningfulness, significance, contribution he says are the keys with contribution being most important
[6:20:25 AM] Carolyn Foote says: typically, that is.
[6:20:41 AM] David Jakes says: sweet, I'm back
[6:21:00 AM] * Brian Mull added lainiemcgann to this chat
[6:21:08 AM] Carolyn Foote says: welcome back
[6:21:17 AM] Steve Dembo says: The fact that most schools ban students from networking together makes me crazy.
[6:21:11 AM] David Jakes says: mine too
[6:21:30 AM] Carolyn Foote says: Steve, you mean via web 2.0 tools
[6:21:33 AM] Will Richardson says: I think contribution is important....but there is more to it.
[6:21:36 AM] Steve Dembo says: I mean online.
[6:21:39 AM] Carolyn Foote says: ok
[6:21:45 AM] Steve Dembo says: Doesn't need to be web2.0
[6:21:49 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: Talking about a kid who got an A on a project and wanted to continue working on so that it would be published online so that "everyone on earth can see it."
[6:22:01 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: Tim hasd promised as much on the 2nd day of school.
[6:22:37 AM] Will Richardson says: They are doing a great job of publishing at Mabry.
[6:22:45 AM] Carolyn Foote says: I think where we need to do work is with administrators and IT departments. They just don't understand.
[6:25:20 AM] Barbara says: they do not grade the work posted on their web site?
[6:27:22 AM] Carolyn Foote says: and made connections with their own families that they wouldn't have otherwise
[6:27:22 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: @Will exactly.
[6:27:38 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: @Carolyn Yes, but will it continue?
[6:27:38 AM] Will Richardson says: So I'm hoping he talks about how that plays out at Mabry.
[6:23:21 AM] Will Richardson says: I wish he would talk more about what happens AFTER the publishing part.
[6:23:39 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: Now that Tim has left mabry will it continue? Will it scale to the next admin? with the teachers keep it alive?
[6:23:50 AM] Steve Dembo says: Do you need parent buy-in in order to get the adminstrators to move en masse? Or is there a pressure point from within the school community?
[6:23:55 AM] Will Richardson says: The publishing piece? Probably.
[6:24:09 AM] Carolyn Foote says: Right, Darren--the leadership makes a tremendous difference right now.
[6:24:09 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: Is Mabry's success scalable?
[6:24:20 AM] Carolyn Foote says: If it were more grass roots, then you know it would be sustained.
[6:24:34 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: The teachers could lead if the principle doesn't ...
[6:24:41 AM] Will Richardson says: Is Mabry a "success?" (I'm being a noodge, I know.
[6:24:42 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: if they have the passion to dso so but will they?
[6:24:44 AM] Carolyn Foote says: Steve, our principal started a commitee that included parents, to help with that.
[6:24:54 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: It''ll be interesting to see what's coming out of Mabry in year.
[6:25:03 AM] Will Richardson says: (Jakes is having connection problems.)
[6:25:11 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: @Will Isn't it?
[6:25:16 AM] Will Richardson says: Talking about assessment...
[6:25:25 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: Noodgfing back. ;)
[6:25:38 AM] Will Richardson says: @Darren It is if the goal is publishing and learning how to publish.
[6:25:47 AM] Will Richardson says: My question is, is that enough?
[6:25:51 AM] Carolyn Foote says: I think it's also a success in providing examples for principals of what you can do
[6:25:55 AM] Steve Dembo says: gtg, thanks for the conversation.
[6:25:56 AM] Will Richardson says: And maybe he'll answer that as well.
[6:25:57 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: Discussing life long learning
[6:26:03 AM] Carolyn Foote says: bye steve
[6:26:11 AM] * Steve Dembo left this chat
[6:26:11 AM] Will Richardson says: Don't drown Steve!
[6:26:18 AM] Carolyn Foote says: welcome back David
[6:26:30 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: It's more than just publishing ... it's what they are publishing and the degree to which the community is involved.
[6:26:46 AM] Carolyn Foote says: Their film festival is a community event, isn't it?
[6:26:58 AM] Will Richardson says: (Will sounding like broken record) It's the connections you make around the publishing.
[6:27:00 AM] Carolyn Foote says: And it sounds like their students have gone on and pursued this
[6:27:04 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: Tim comp just spoke up to say he's running on reserve power. :D
[6:28:13 AM] Carolyn Foote says: Yes, I wonder about that Darren.
[6:28:23 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: @Barbra I don't know but I imagine they grade it but don't publish the grades .... I think that would be a problem of confidentiallity.
[6:28:33 AM] Will Richardson says: I think in all of this we need to ask, "what are kids learning?"
[6:28:45 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: "When does meaningfulness start?"
[6:28:53 AM] Carolyn Foote says: But isn't making a contribution part of what they are learning? that they can make one?
[6:29:18 AM] Carolyn Foote says: that a message well crafted can communicate? that they have personal power?
[6:29:25 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: @Will Not What, but how. And are they internalizing a respect and value for learning.
[6:29:36 AM] Carolyn Foote says: I like that question Darren. Heard Tim at NECC
[6:29:37 AM] Will Richardson says: @carolyn no doubt. But I'm wondering if that is the ultimate goal
[6:29:45 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: "What's on their minds?"
[6:30:39 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: Tim's kids wanted to do a project on human embryonic stem cell research and he let them do it.
[6:30:41 AM] Barbara says: When as an admin we do heavy lifiting on projects embedding the vision is hard work
[6:30:36 AM] Will Richardson says: Is tim's answer that meangingfullness starts when we publish good work to the world?
[6:30:59 AM] Will Richardson says: I think I would argue that meaningfullness really begins with the conversations and the learning that occurs around what is being published.
[6:31:18 AM] Barbara says: he said contribution was key so maybe yes...not sure if i agree
[6:31:13 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: They wanted to go on field trip to univ. to talk to researcher, tim said yes ... with parental permission and they wanted to go too.
[6:32:23 AM] Will Richardson says: he told this story at NECC...can hear the podcast on Wes's site
[6:32:41 AM] Carolyn Foote says: Can it be around both, Will?
[6:33:01 AM] Carolyn Foote says: the learning, and the conversation afterwards?
[6:33:06 AM] Will Richardson says: Both what?
[6:33:13 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: Reasearcher p[resentede high level info on what she does and why. Gave balanced view of why people think she shouldn't so the work she does.
[6:33:25 AM] Will Richardson says: Ok...now he's talking...his kids have a blog where they connect with researchers at Emory..
[6:33:29 AM] Will Richardson says: That's making a connection.
[6:33:39 AM] Will Richardson says: That's building a network.
[6:33:49 AM] Will Richardson says: These are really amazing projects.
[6:34:08 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: He empowerede his kids to direct their learning after internalizing a passion to know.
[6:34:32 AM] Carolyn Foote says: They are authentic projects
[6:35:14 AM] Carolyn Foote says: because they are real world research
[6:35:19 AM] Carolyn Foote says: not just within the walls of the school or walls of the internet
[6:35:25 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: Sharing movies his students have made: 1st "Organ Donation"
[6:35:32 AM] Will Richardson says: Absolutely
[6:35:45 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: Theme of film festival: Making Our World a better place."
[6:36:01 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: I thnk it can be found at mabryonline
[6:36:19 AM] Barbara says: the ground work for real world research is connecting the students with people and places..at least junior high kids do not get it unless there is a face and place
[6:36:42 AM] Carolyn Foote says: It is, Darren..the winning films are online
[6:36:58 AM] Barbara says: if not on mabryonline it is on itunes
[6:36:58 AM] Will Richardson says: You know what? What these kids are doing is good journalism.
[6:37:04 AM] Will Richardson says: With a dose of activism.
[6:37:06 AM] Carolyn Foote says: It is, isn't it
[6:37:26 AM] Carolyn Foote says: But..sometimes I question mixing the two
[6:37:32 AM] Will Richardson says: Learning on steroids.
[6:37:38 AM] Carolyn Foote says: Our journalists often don't know how to be good journalists
[6:37:49 AM] Carolyn Foote says: because they mix in too much opinion
[6:37:58 AM] Carolyn Foote says: and bias
[6:38:16 AM] Carolyn Foote says: It reminds me of the I-search paper
[6:38:21 AM] Carolyn Foote says: very similar
[6:38:30 AM] Carolyn Foote says: you tell your journey, and then share your research
[6:38:45 AM] Will Richardson says: Yep...only it;s the I-search movie...good stuff.
[6:39:10 AM] Carolyn Foote says: right
[6:40:11 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: Next: "Genetically Modified Foods"
[6:40:27 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: Frankengenes
[6:40:45 AM] Will Richardson says: Jakes and Shareski have dropped from the chat
[6:41:08 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: The movie changed how one kid's family bought food.
[6:41:26 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: real learning is when what you learn changes you in some way.
[6:41:33 AM] Will Richardson says: yep
[6:42:29 AM] Will Richardson says: I also wonder how much pd it took to get the teachers ready to support these types of projects.
[6:42:32 AM] Barbara says: Maybe Darren how do you apply that to math
[6:42:45 AM] Carolyn Foote says: David Jakes was trying to skypecast this for later
[6:42:53 AM] Will Richardson says: And it's obvious that Tim is really facile with technology...he's able to model it in his practice.
[6:43:01 AM] Carolyn Foote says: Will, I agree, they are very professionally done.
[6:43:28 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: @Barbra I try to change the way they think.
[6:43:29 AM] Barbara says: They had some technical advisors ...I think parents
[6:43:42 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: Math is about how you approach problem solving
[6:44:15 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: Next;"Child Slave Labour On The Ivory Coast"
[6:22:07 AM] Dean Shareski says: they don't need to go to school to contribute or post....they already have their own networks
[6:46:15 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: The focus seems to be the connection between child slave labour vis a vis chocolate. I think Nancy White would cry if she heard this. ;)
[6:46:21 AM] Barbara says: The movies highlight issues but they do not reveal the research..the process of validating info and thinking
[6:47:28 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: @Barbara that's the part that should be invisible in the final product ... that's where the teaccher comes in. To ensure those things are done.
[6:47:56 AM] Dean Shareski says: dropped skype many times..is this getting through
[6:48:21 AM] Carolyn Foote says: yes, Dean, I see you
[6:48:22 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: Great visual penny morphing into kids face.
[6:48:37 AM] Will Richardson says: But I agree that esp with this one, the sources are really important.
[6:48:39 AM] Carolyn Foote says: I agree, Darren. Should be invisible but evident
[6:48:39 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: Yeah I see you too Dean.
[6:48:50 AM] Will Richardson says: hey dean
[6:48:56 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: Next: "Human Embryonic Stem Cell research"
[6:49:43 AM] Barbara says: I think it is important especially if we want the students to have a viable voice to at least give source information
[6:49:52 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: One kids changed his mind, from wanting ot be pro baseball player to .... stem cell researcher?
[6:50:22 AM] Carolyn Foote says: True, barbara
[6:21:39 AM] David Jakes says: How many teachers get networking?
[6:21:56 AM] David Jakes says: and the power associated with connecting?
[6:33:20 AM] David Jakes says: back?
[6:37:10 AM] David Jakes says: back
[6:49:33 AM] David Jakes says: bb
[6:50:40 AM] David Jakes says: Heeesss baccckkk
[6:50:49 AM] Will Richardson says: Jakes!
[6:50:56 AM] David Jakes says: about time
[6:51:04 AM] Will Richardson says: I agree Barbara
[6:51:10 AM] Carolyn Foote says: welcome back!
[6:51:12 AM] Barbara says: netwoeking is something you get when you experience it
[6:51:21 AM] Carolyn Foote says: exactly. And it takes time to build a network
[6:51:24 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: WOW.
[6:51:25 AM] Will Richardson says: These are great movies...but they have a hugely emotional tug.
[6:51:33 AM] Barbara says: exactly
[6:51:45 AM] Will Richardson says: that needs to be balanced
[6:52:01 AM] Carolyn Foote says: The students have really learned how to communicate something. Right, Will...it is like learning advertising.
[6:52:08 AM] Dean Shareski says: What would be really interesting is to have kids create videos that argue conflicting ideas
[6:52:18 AM] Carolyn Foote says: point/counterpoint?
[6:52:19 AM] Barbara says: I like that dean
[6:52:23 AM] Will Richardson says: No doubt, when you know you're audience is going to be global...it changes the equation
[6:52:26 AM] David Jakes says: Kids can do this, we see it all the time in my school district, when given the chance. That's it--the chance
[6:52:37 AM] Will Richardson says: Right
[6:52:43 AM] Carolyn Foote says: more than the chance, the expectation?
[6:52:50 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: @Dean, yeah.
[6:53:05 AM] Carolyn Foote says: Do we settle for "good enough" in schools too often? to be nice?
[6:53:13 AM] Dean Shareski says: I like the 2 minute time....synthesizes learning
[6:53:16 AM] Will Richardson says: "It's not about the technology and the connectivity"
[6:53:18 AM] Carolyn Foote says: Joyce Valenza said that.
[6:53:18 AM] Barbara says: Carolyn...how do we get teachers to the point of making it an expectation
[6:53:33 AM] David Jakes says: that's about leadership
[6:53:37 AM] Barbara says: @ Dean I do
[6:53:40 AM] Carolyn Foote says: Right, and some will go too far with that, Barbara...the whole "rigor" thing
[6:53:44 AM] Carolyn Foote says: gone awry
[6:53:50 AM] Will Richardson says: "Our kids want to be prepared to make a contribution"
[6:53:53 AM] Carolyn Foote says: I agree, leadership, David
[6:54:09 AM] Will Richardson says: Do you thnk middle school kids are too young to understand the network?
[6:54:19 AM] Barbara says: No
[6:54:27 AM] Carolyn Foote says: No, they are on networks already, Will, don't you think?
[6:54:27 AM] Will Richardson says: Right
[6:54:28 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: Thay're not. i.e. Clarence Fisher's kids.
[6:54:29 AM] Carolyn Foote says: myspace? or younger sites?
[6:54:31 AM] David Jakes says: No, I don't think so, we need to challenge and accept nothing less
[6:54:46 AM] Will Richardson says: Making th world a better place...
[6:54:47 AM] Carolyn Foote says: My son was on art sites networking by middle school.
[6:54:46 AM] Dean Shareski says: I know first greaders who understand networks...they don't call them networks, it's just how they learn
[6:54:50 AM] Will Richardson says: Look at TakingIT Global...
[6:54:52 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: Next: "Celebrate Achievement"
[6:55:00 AM] David Jakes says: see uthTV
[6:55:01 AM] Barbara says: the kids have networks they just need to ewant learning networks...to value learning
[6:55:06 AM] Will Richardson says: That's a network that's doing meaningful work to change the world.
[6:55:13 AM] Will Richardson says: Can we do that with middle school kids?
[6:55:15 AM] Will Richardson says: More than movies?
[6:55:23 AM] Carolyn Foote says: They do learn on their networks, I believe. We should respect that more.
[6:55:35 AM] Will Richardson says: (And I'm not dissin' the movies.)
[6:55:50 AM] Dean Shareski says: I like the way these videos are structured....student reflection up front...nice
[6:55:55 AM] Barbara says: I think so...we teach social justice and in a connected world it takes on new meaning
[6:56:04 AM] Carolyn Foote says: Dean, like the I-search process for papers
[6:56:14 AM] * David Jakes added techgrl to this chat
[6:56:29 AM] David Jakes says: Welcome, Carolyn from Bellingham Washington
[6:56:38 AM] Carolyn Foote says: Hi Carolyn
[6:56:46 AM] Brian Mull says: It's not about technology and connectivity until you can't. Just got bck on and had a flood of messages come in.
[6:56:48 AM] Dean Shareski says: technical point....what about copyright music....these are on itunes...I'm just sayin' is all
[6:56:47 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: Hi Carolyn
[6:56:53 AM] Will Richardson says: Dean...I was just thinking that
[6:57:04 AM] Barbara says: First you have to broaden the jr high stuidents world view then you can move toward doing something in the world
[6:57:32 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: Good p[oint DeAN
[6:57:33 AM] Will Richardson says: I'm about out of battery...
[6:57:32 AM] Dean Shareski says: I'm guilty of it too so I can't be too hyprocritical
[6:57:33 AM] David Jakes says: We are starting to have our MIDI music classes compose music for our digital stories
[6:57:47 AM] Carolyn Foote says: good idea David.
[6:57:51 AM] Barbara says: we are going there next year too..midi
[6:57:53 AM] Dean Shareski says: but the songs are very appropriate
[6:57:54 AM] Carolyn Foote says: tap into the musicians on the campus too.
[6:58:14 AM] Carolyn Foote says: We have a lot of kids in bands at high school. They'd probably love to have their music included.
[6:58:14 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: OUr choir is recording music arranged by our music teacher ... watch for it next year. ;)
[6:58:16 AM] Will Richardson says: shutting down...thanks for the chat.
[6:58:27 AM] Carolyn Foote says: The problem is, there is an emotional connection to hearing a familiar song in these presentations
[6:58:29 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: CHEERS WILL!
[6:58:29 AM] Carolyn Foote says: bye Will
[6:58:47 AM] Carolyn Foote says: The song adds meaning because it is familiar.
[6:58:56 AM] Carolyn Foote says: doesn't it?
[6:59:35 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: Ends with" What's your next logical step? Take it."
[6:59:54 AM] Darren Kuropatwa says: I'm off to get my session ready. Cheers!
[7:00:01 AM] David Jakes says: thanks everyone
[7:00:07 AM] Carolyn Foote says: Bye! thanks David!
[7:00:08 AM] David Jakes says: chatcast up soon

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